New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by clm » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:07

Fuel flow and vent are good, I also checked for air leaks and did not find any... so far...

I am thinking I need to replace the distributor as well as the timing seems to move around a fair amount.

Aside from that... I think I have found an idea for how to fit Australian rear arms in my English moke and keep the little wheeler look :)

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An image from the web I modified to show my idea.

I am thinking of extending the bodywork slightly to move the rear panel back far enough to clear the larger tires. I think it could be done smooth enough to still look like a stock little wheeler if it isn't sitting next to another moke. If anything it would only add 2 inches to the load bay which could be mostly hidden by some form of storage box.

... Oh, and the camper trailer I am thinking of building to tow with the moke... :)

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Also borrowed from the web and modified ;)

Chris
1965 Austin Moke - Rust was not free, I paid dearly for it
1961 Morris Traveller - Bent but repairable
1960 Morris saloon.. err wagon.. err Pickup, yeah that's it! - My first car
1980 Mini 95 Van shell - pickup load floor donor

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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by Nigel(no top)Sykes » Fri Jun 07, 2013 17:00

Both look excellent :D but it took a while to get used to the trailer.... Kept making me think of a fiat multipla or a forward control Landrover :shock:

Also, don't forget the front tyres (tires) will rub on the inner wings with 13s
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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by pbraun » Sun Jun 09, 2013 14:36

Outstanding!
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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by clm » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:32

I have no doubt things will end up rubbing here or there, but I am still 2 long rear arms and a set of wheels and tires away from needing to stretch the rear of the moke. I could always just install a nice smooth stainless steel rub plate in the front where the tires would rub at full lock and then not worry about it ;)

As for the trailer.. yeah it does kind of have that look... but it would look right at home behind any standard mini :)

...and it's going to be mostly made out of scraps left over from the pickup and van shell projects that would otherwise be scrapped ;)

Chris
1965 Austin Moke - Rust was not free, I paid dearly for it
1961 Morris Traveller - Bent but repairable
1960 Morris saloon.. err wagon.. err Pickup, yeah that's it! - My first car
1980 Mini 95 Van shell - pickup load floor donor

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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by Nigel(no top)Sykes » Wed Jun 12, 2013 18:30

Lot of glass in that trailer!...... You'd better get the sewing machine out :lol:
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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by clm » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:42

It's a prize winning Moke!

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...ok it's more of a gag trophy but all the real winners got was an engraved glass ;)

I'll take some pictures close up tomorrow, just got home from Mini Meet West and I am beat!

But I want to add something else... While I was there I read up on some oil pressure issues and I think my oil pump may not be in very good shape. It doesn't seem to build pressure on the starter motor only after it fires, which seems to indicate it's bleeding down. The oil pressure seems rather variable. I am thinking of pulling it and taking it to Jet Motors in Portland OR to have the bottom end inspected and corrected if need be.

And while we are on that subject, they did a bit of tuning to the moke at Mini meet, now the engine has PLENTY of torque... It will happily drive in 4th from 20ish all the way up over 65MPH. First second and third gears? Who needs them!... well ok maybe I should put the taller final drive in it like I have been wanting to do ;)

But I will try to get more story and pictures up tomorrow...


oh.. ok, here is a couple.

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Moke in a snowstorm at Mt Bachelor.


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Commandeered by the Stig and the Queen!

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Rusty and Moke 2XS

Chris
1965 Austin Moke - Rust was not free, I paid dearly for it
1961 Morris Traveller - Bent but repairable
1960 Morris saloon.. err wagon.. err Pickup, yeah that's it! - My first car
1980 Mini 95 Van shell - pickup load floor donor

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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by pbraun » Fri Jun 21, 2013 15:00

It's always good to win prizes!
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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by clm » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:34

Indeed, and I wasn't expecting to with my rather scruffy moke once the other two showed up. Although I must admit that award was almost perfectly fitting for it, except for the bondo part... as there is no body filler in it at all currently lol.

Chris
1965 Austin Moke - Rust was not free, I paid dearly for it
1961 Morris Traveller - Bent but repairable
1960 Morris saloon.. err wagon.. err Pickup, yeah that's it! - My first car
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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by clm » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:16

Just to put a finishing touch to this mad 4 month long saga, The "Rusty POS terd" moke made it to the MMW and won one of the two unique awards, while it may have lacked the bondo from the title of the award, the moke fit the spirit of the award rather well :)

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Towing the moke to the event using my front bumper mounted towbar was a bit sketchy seeing as the front bumper is only held on by 4 bolts through sheet metal, however nothing moved and everything stayed tight. The Gearbox doesn't seem any worse for wear to my untrained hand, although it's just an old used 850 magic wand gearbox and not worth hardly anything. The Nissan I used as a tow vehicle was very gutless especially going up the hills... I thought it was because it was towing the moke, but later when I drove to Mt Bachelor I realized the weight of the moke was not really having any impact on it!

I had been seriously amped up prior to MMW and had not been able to get any sleep at all since Saturday night, Thankfully I managed to drive the 250 miles uneventfully, got my motel room, and then found the Hotel MMW was going to be held at... Although I was early :p It was 4 hours before the registrations opened and someone finally relieved me of my entrance fees.

After registering the car wash opened up. Although there really is not much to wash on Rusty, the person heading the car wash egged me on that he could put a shine on anything... He was not ready for my moke however ;) Irregardless I washed the tires and the chrome and any mud splats I found off the primer. I also washed the hood and hosed off the windshield... inside and out... followed by hosing out the whole inside of the moke! You got to love vehicles without any real interior! :D

After that scene I wandered around a bit and met some people saw some great cars and the Alan pulled in with the Yellow moke, I didn't realize at this point it was 2XS, not until the show and shine the next day did I realize that. I also saw quite a few other cars including a black Crayford Riley Elf and the one car of the week that totally blew my mind...

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This estate was almost an exact twin of my bent one, a couple months newer and an Austin instead of a Morris.. but.. That yellow internal tank smooth roof woody gives a good indication of what mine looked like once :)

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I had a blast there driving the moke on pretty much everything but the autocross and the rally, I missed the rally due to not having a navigator and well, Jet motors was tuning up the engine until after it started so I just hung around at the "pits" The Moke in it's pre-tuned state fared fairly well on the run up to Mt Bachelor which has been the longest single drive since I got the moke driveable. Speaking of Mt Bachelor... dang that was cold! I was under the impression it was going to be fairly warm for Mini Meet... Snow flurrys were not something I was ready for! Thanks to Mt Bachelor resort for loaning me a coat to wear so I could drive back to town and buy a coat of my own! And well, it has no seatbelts so was ineligible for use in the Auto(snow)cross and the funkhana was canceled.

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Even with the shinier mokes there I am surprised on how many people commented favorably on in saying to not change a thing... not something I can do however as I don't want it to re-dissolve ;)

After the snow storm I headed back to the motel room to rest before the parade, upon exiting the room so I could get something from the Nissan, what did I see?

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Apparently I wan't the only mini person who was staying in this dive of a motel! It turned out to be Chuck Heleker when I knocked on the door. We chatted a while he told me of past mini escapades I showed him some of the work I had done on the moke to get it here and then I let him get back to working on his speech for the get together that evening.

The Parade was a blast, I showed up somewhat early and they kept flagging me forward.. and forward.. and forward. Right up near the front I had a couple ask if they could ride in it through the parade, I had no problems with that, they asked if I could put the top down, it was slightly sprinkling at times... but it is a moke, very little water will hurt inside it... So the top came down... Then I saw they were dressed as the Stig and the Queen and she asked if she could sit up on the folded top! I mentioned it might not be too comfortable so she acquired a cushion and rode that way during the parade. I did offer to let the Stig drive but apparently he was tired of driving at this point so I chauffeured them through the parade ;)

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As mentioned earlier I missed the rally with the Jet Motors people tweaking the moke, although this is likely a good thing I don't know if the oil pump would be up to a 3-4 hour drive and I had no co-driver :)

I can't wait until next years Mini meet but rather annoyed it's 2/3 the way across the US to get there! At least I have about another year to get a decent engine together and do the final bodywork on the moke <IMG SRC="/sysimages/SF_Smile.gif" width=19 heigh=19 align=absmiddle class=msgSmiles>

I am very very happy and content I purchased the infamous Spank Moke, If I had to do again I would purchase it all over again without a moments hesitation.

Next up on the agenda unfortunately is to pull the motor and find out why my oil pressure is fubar. I am guessing the oil pump is no good, but I may need to rebuild the bottom end if it's caused other damage, check back later for the consensus

Chris

P.S. more pictures are available on photobucket at http://s1202.photobucket.com/user/clm19 ... ry/MMW2013
1965 Austin Moke - Rust was not free, I paid dearly for it
1961 Morris Traveller - Bent but repairable
1960 Morris saloon.. err wagon.. err Pickup, yeah that's it! - My first car
1980 Mini 95 Van shell - pickup load floor donor

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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by clm » Wed Jul 17, 2013 16:48

Not many updates recently, I have been recovering from the spending spree getting this Moke to Mini Meet West.

I did take and pull out the 1100 as I said I was going to do, once I had it out and apart I found the oil pump was this side of mangled I could not even turn the shaft by hand, instead needing a screwdriver to pry it around... surprisingly the crank looks perfect and the bearings look like they have lots of life left in them even though I plan to replace them to be on the safe side.

-1100 being pulled-
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-oil pump annulus-
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-center main bearing and journal-
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-number 4 rod bearing and journal-
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-random shots of polished/smoothed/lightened? rods and crank in the 1100-
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I took the opportunity to put the Original 850 back into the Moke, and after a day swapping out waterpumps a few times managed to get an one that neither howled nor leaked like a fire hose... I had not hooked up the pressure gauge yet so all I knew was the engine ran.

-850 degreased-
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-850 back where it came from-
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Well the transmission is definitely seriously loose with rather vague shifting but all gears work and it doesn't jump out of any of them, the clutch works well, and it seems to start if you even give the key a dirty look heh. In fact I don't even have the choke hooked up and it doesn't give any indication of needing it.

Yesterday I decided to scare myself and hooked up the oil pressure gauge... Remember I only got maybe 30psi cranking pressure on the test gauge when I was testing.

You know what?

I am blown the heck away.... This engine, the engine that was first bolted in this Moke the day it rolled off the Longbridge line almost 48 years ago, has almost perfect oil pressure and does not seem to smoke or use any oil. It starts up around 60+psi oil pressure stone cold and once it is fully hot with a 7+mile 55-60mph blast down the road... It does not fall below 45psi oil pressure. I have to just about stall the engine to hit 40.

-hot oil pressure at idle, temp gauge not connected (oddly the moke engine had no sender ;) )-
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Hindsight is 20/20... If I would have just put the mokes correct engine in It would have easily driven to Bend and back with no problems!

Once again I say INSANE!

Did I mention I have not changed the oil in it yet? This is likely 30 year old oil... I will be changing it this weekend. O.o

I also took the time to start assembling the 1275 silver seal short block I have everything is looking perfect so far...

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I am mainly assembling it so the crank and pistons aren't laying around loose to get damaged. I am not going to put the big bore head back on the 1100 as thankfully the block is not pocketed.

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And I can do that as I have this which has been laying around for many years on my shelf.. a stock mg1100 head, seems perfect to put on a mg1100 engine for some reason ;)

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I am going to need to scrape up some funds now for the bearings oil pump and gasket set for the 1100, but for now the moke has a nice reliable engine to use in the bean time...

850 POWER!!!

Chris
1965 Austin Moke - Rust was not free, I paid dearly for it
1961 Morris Traveller - Bent but repairable
1960 Morris saloon.. err wagon.. err Pickup, yeah that's it! - My first car
1980 Mini 95 Van shell - pickup load floor donor

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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by Nigel(no top)Sykes » Wed Jul 17, 2013 17:42

I say !, British engineering at its best . What, what.
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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by Tim » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:13

clm wrote:
-oil pump annulus-
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Man that's shagged!

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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by clm » Thu Jul 18, 2013 17:50

I know... but at kleast the oil filters did their job, the engine aside from that oil pump looks great.

I pulled the oil pump out of a dead 998 it looks identical O.o

Chris
1965 Austin Moke - Rust was not free, I paid dearly for it
1961 Morris Traveller - Bent but repairable
1960 Morris saloon.. err wagon.. err Pickup, yeah that's it! - My first car
1980 Mini 95 Van shell - pickup load floor donor

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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by janz » Mon Aug 05, 2013 0:32

I never cease to be amazed at the wonders of the original FA version of the lovely 848cc engine.... many believe that they must replace it with an 1100 or 1275 or..... but...

1. Nothing sounds like an original 848cc. It's that 'rev it - change gear... bwaaaaah, rev it change gear... bwaaaaah.... just like a Moggy Minor
2. Where's all that torque comin from?
3. it's unbreakable
4. Leave it for months... prime the pump, turn the key - start!

Will never replace mine :D (knock on wood) :shock:
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Re: New Moke Owner 1965 UK Little Wheeler in Oregon

Post by clm » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:04

Now if I could manage to get the running quality of the 850 and the ability to drive it at faster then 55 without feeling like I am torturing it... I would be happy. As it is this stock engine will travel at 55 but I have it pretty high up the rev range.. and when a fly hits the windscreen it takes me down about 5mph lol.

I did do a 100 mile round trip with it a week ago and I had no real issues... well other then 98% of the roads had 55mph speed limits and the moke struggled to maintain that on all but flat ground.

I also need to figure out why it is so reluctant to start hot... It fires right up when cold.

Oh well I am pricing up a set of 30 under bearings for the 1100 and have my oil pump I will use located, just need to start getting those bits in :)

Chris

P.S. Prime the pump? I get oil pressure on mine as soon as I hit the key.... O.o Complete polar opposite of what I got from the 1100 with bad oil pump.
1965 Austin Moke - Rust was not free, I paid dearly for it
1961 Morris Traveller - Bent but repairable
1960 Morris saloon.. err wagon.. err Pickup, yeah that's it! - My first car
1980 Mini 95 Van shell - pickup load floor donor

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