65 uk Moke Restoration

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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by j Beeton » Sun Apr 03, 2016 18:48

Another question, I have original moke manuals and a couple of mini haynes manuals , buj they don't always have the info I need! none i have show twin cylinder drums..

I have fitted up the front drums/shoes and springs, I think I have got them correct but if there is a correct way I would like to know.

I also bought the little springs that were meant to hold the shoes to the cylinder pistons, but how do these fit as there are no holes in the pistons?

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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Wally2 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 19:30

Hi James,
This might help
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The little springs are called 'bee hive springs' but you cannot fit them if there are no holes in the pistons, I had the same problem! They are shown fitted in the fig above.
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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Wally2 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 19:40

Hi James,
did you sort out the tie rods? I tried to put a diagram on but now I'm on windows 10 I couldn't figure out how to, but now I have so here we are!
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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Wally2 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 20:17

Hi James,
Just sent you a PM re manual.
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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by j Beeton » Sun Apr 03, 2016 22:50

Thanks for replying Chris, I fitted the shoes as the drawing you sent, so not bad guessing, and as you say I could not fit the little "beehive" springs because there are no holes in the brake cylinder pistons.
:D I also sorted out the tie rods so all good......

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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by j Beeton » Tue Apr 12, 2016 20:29

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Hi all , some photos of recent progress , engine ready and then in place, car rear with wheels on!!

finally the photo shows the gap between the rad and the top bracket, the mini spares bolts are to short to fit ? so is there a special spacer required?

cheers James

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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Wally2 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 21:13

Hi James,
Just checked the relative position of the rad to thermostat housing on my Moke and it looks very similar to yours, however, my top bracket only has a 10 - 15mm set in it, yours looks much larger.
Perhaps a new bracket from Moke Panels might do the job, it looks more like mine.
http://www.mokepanels.com/moke-parts/
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PS progress looking good for L2B!
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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Wally2 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 21:17

James,
Also when putting photos into the post don't get the address from the pics at the bottom on the gallery as these are thumbnails and that's what then goes into the post, you have to click onto the main photo i.e.
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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Wally2 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 21:33

Hi James,
More tricky to photo with the engine in the car but this is the best I can get!
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Hope you can see that mine has a lot less set in it.
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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Wally2 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 21:46

Hi James,
Did you get the disc I sent to you?
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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by j Beeton » Sun Apr 17, 2016 18:44

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the photo, and yes your stat to rad plate is much shallower than the one on my car so the bolts from Mini spares would fit with it.

I did get the disc you sent many thanks for sending that , it is very useful !! So I owe you a cold refreshing drink at some time soon:D

More work on car this weekend, all rear lights rewired , with new bullet connectors etc and heat shrink to cover cables. Carb fitted and fuel lines all cleaned up and fitted.

Questions:

Is there a lower engine steady bar on a moke? There was one fitted when I got the car and now cannot figure out how it was fitted :(

My handbrake seems to be different to that shown in the manual in that there is an extra piece fitted between the handbrake and the cables. Are the cables standard mini length or longer?

Also there are 2 x metal plates that fit to the floor where the cable passes through. Do these go beneath or on top and are there only two or shoud there be 2 x plate on top and bottom for both cables? I seem to have 4 in my parts bin and I would not have used them on any other car?? :)

cheers James

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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Nigel(no top)Sykes » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:26

There was sometimes a lower engine steady fitted in later years, but they are pretty much useless. Far better to fit a top steady at the thermostat end of the engine.
The handbrake cables on non Australian Mokes are, I believe, the same length as estate and van ones.
At least can add up

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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Wally2 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:13

Hi James,
Some pics that might help
Bottom steady bar
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Handbrake cable
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Cable plates
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Hope these help.
Details of the handbrake cable are in the parts list on the disc but its not easy to see how they go on the car!
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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by j Beeton » Wed Apr 20, 2016 19:21

thanks Chris, useful photos, I will check out the rad brackets at mini spares this week as yours looks right! The pic of the metal plates where the handbrake cable comes through the floor is helpful , are there only the two metal plates ? as M-parts shows four on their refurb kit? , and spookily i seem to have four as well. are there plates underneath as well as on top of the floor entry hole...
The lower bracket I have is different to yours but the photo again helps......

regards James

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Re: 65 uk Moke Restoration

Post by Nigel(no top)Sykes » Wed Apr 20, 2016 20:14

Yes, you should have 4 plates. Two above and two below with the bits of felt stuff to help seal it all up
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