Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by kenbutterfield » Tue Jan 10, 2012 16:59

I see that the listing has been slightly amended....it still says prototype moke but has lost the "One of only Two built" ...

Rare Mini Moke

1963 Factory Prototype


So now the only errors are:

rare
moke
1963
factory and prototype

not too bad?

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by kenbutterfield » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:11

I see that marc is still around having now:

Last edited by Marc556 on Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:37, edited 5 times in total.


but I think that he needs further proof, so I am glad that english moke registrar Mark Peacock has got involved and requested the chassis number from marc....for the final word on this jimini...ken

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by Bodge » Wed Jan 11, 2012 16:47

I asked Marc for the chassis number and engine number and he replied saying:

Chassis number M/AE4/349077
Engine number 8AMUH1112558
The car vehicle registration document shows its date of registration to be the 14 March 1963

If it was indeed a prototype then it would have a chassis number with a prefix SPL. However It doesn't even have the correct chassis and engine number prefixes to be a Moke of any variety, even if it had been a Moke and been rebodied at some point. Roger

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by grantourer » Wed Jan 11, 2012 17:33

I hope he does the honourable thing, then.
Regards, Graham & Judith
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1989 Portuguese Moke
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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by David Biss » Wed Jan 11, 2012 20:18

would it be a good idea to post some of these comments onto our "Ebay" forum in case any outsiders were looking there for advice???
Dave Biss (3.45 English Mokes)

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by kenbutterfield » Thu Jan 12, 2012 16:56

Good idea Dave....Getting nearer the heading still reads:

RARE MINI MOKE MORRIS BLUE
1963 PROTOTYPE MOKE


but at least the description now reads:

Rare Mini Moke

1963

WHICH IT IS NOT of course!

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by PJ » Thu Jan 12, 2012 18:37

David Biss wrote:would it be a good idea to post some of these comments onto our "Ebay" forum in case any outsiders were looking there for advice???
Dave Biss (3.45 English Mokes)
Done

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by green_moke » Tue Jan 17, 2012 17:23

do you think he will come back now it hasnt sold with no bids and ask us what is is really worth? :wink:

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by janz » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:28

It's ended - no bids..... and relisted :o http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1963-MINI-MOK ... 1c230210b7

This time it has been described as being a Rare Mini Moke that has benefitted from a Jimini conversion on the donor chassis.... (we looked every where for said chassis but only found a monocoque :lol: ) Anyway, the chassis number that supposedly confirms it to be a Moke has been added: M/AE4/349077 As far as I know, all English Mokes are either A or M, then B1..... I find no correllation with any Mini related product and AE4. And... doesn't the sequential number exceed the maximum for English Moke production..... should be up to 014xxx shouldn't it?
Let's see what it does this time..... although I don't see what is so wrong with this car just being advertised as a Jimini in it's own right. A Jimini driver in the know of what he's got... and there ain't nowt wrong with a Jimini... there's not many around..... would most probably have as much fun as a Moke driver :wink:
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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by Nigel(no top)Sykes » Fri Jan 20, 2012 20:23

Probably the seller has bought it thinking they'd got a Moke and now want to get their wasted money back
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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by Bodge » Fri Jan 20, 2012 22:59

Marc should be ashamed of himself. We have loads of legislation in the UK protecting consumers against such fraudulent activity as this. No dealer would legally be able to sell this Jimini as a Moke and yet somehow it is acceptable on eBay.

I think the story of this Jimini is probably as follows: Someone reshelled a 1963 Mini into a Jimini and a helpful member of staff at the local DVLA office thought it looked like a Moke and so registered it as that.

Marc knows that this vehicle of his is not a Moke and is not a prototype. Furthermore the chassis and body numbers confirm this. Yet he continues to imply that it is somehow a Moke and somehow a pre-production model.

The age-old adage “buyer beware” has never had more relevance.

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by Nigel(no top)Sykes » Sat Jan 21, 2012 14:14

Talk to most nonMoke folk and they think if it's got no doors or a roof it's a Moke. A bit like the Hoover description for vacuum cleaners.
Under this ruling most golf carts count as Mokes :D
At least can add up

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by janz » Sun Jan 22, 2012 17:35

1 hour and 10 minutes to go for the second try...... in the (almost same, but quite different) words of Murray Walker: "Anything can happen and probably...... WON'T!" :lol:

Honestly... next time around, I'm sure that if Marc lists it correctly, it may sell.... at a correct price.
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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by grantourer » Sun Jan 22, 2012 19:13

Hi Jan. yes you where right, did not sell, oh dear never mind. As an aside. I was trawling Ebay New Zealand, and it was for sale on there as well, but did not see it on Ebay Australia.
Regards, Graham & Judith
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1989 Portuguese Moke
1992 VW T3 Multivan LLE No 2113

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Re: Prototype Moke 1963 rare find???

Post by Nigel(no top)Sykes » Sun Jan 22, 2012 19:49

Perhaps there's more people take note of what's said on here than we know
At least can add up

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